Egypt: U.S. Has Role In All Camps - Interview

Interview On Egypt: U.S. Has Role In All Camps
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    Date: Tue Jul 9, 2013 10:18 am ((PDT))

>  Interview On Egypt: U.S. Has Role In All Camps
> faction-or-group-in-Egypt-Rozoff-2284/
>  Voice of Russia
>  July 9, 2013
>  The U.S. has a role with every faction or group in Egypt - Rozoff
>  Recorded on July 6, 2013
>  Audio at URL above
>  Leaders of the Otpor! movement which helped destroy the former  
> Yugoslavia are active in Egypt training radical youth of the CANVAS 
> movement. Both groups are funded by NGOs, the U.S. State Department  and
> the CIA and their sole purpose is to overthrow and topple  governments.
> After what can be called a military coup d'etat in Egypt,  the U.S.
> has been quiet because they are also supporters of the  Egyptian
> military. Voice of Russia regular contributor Rick Rozoff  spoke about
> these issues and more in this exclusive interview with the  Voice of
> Russia's John Robles.
>  This is John Robles speaking to Rick Rozoff, the owner and manager of  
> the Stop Nato website and international mailing list.
>  Robles: Hello, Sir, how are you this afternoon?
>  Rozoff: I'm very good, John. Thanks again for the invitation to be  
> with you.
>  Robles: Nice to be speaking with you again. Can you tell us a little  
> bit about what's going on, in your opinion, in Egypt and about some of
>  the U.S. links to some of the candidates, former candidates, etc?
>  Rozoff: It's still a situation in progress, and we are talking about 
> a series of events that really culminated in what can only be  
> characterized as a military coup d'etat two days ago, at least our 
> time here, which would have been Independence Day in the United  States,
> aptly enough I suppose, right? July Fourth.
>  What we do know for a fact is that the government elected roughly a  
> year ago in a runoff election headed by the Freedom and Justice Party, 
> which is the political front of the Muslim Brotherhood, and their 
> candidate, Mohamed Morsi, was removed and that in its stead an interim 
> government administered by the military is in control, again, as was 
> the case two years ago.
>  Robles: He was backed by the U.S., but he was a fundamentalist  
> Islamist which I think was a problem he had in more or less secular 
> Egypt. What's your opinion on that angle?
>  Rozoff: That's correct that Egypt has been a secular parliamentary  
> democracy since Abdel Nasser came to power in the early 1950s, and not 
> only secular but tolerant of religious minorities, including a fairly 
> substantial Coptic Christian minority, as well as non-believers.
>  The government up until fairly recently at least passed the litmus  
> test for being a secular parliamentary democracy, even if they  
> violated the basic tenets of that democracy, with leaders for life: 
> Hosni Mubarak for 30 years, for example. Nevertheless, compared to the 
> attempt to install a government two years ago or a year ago rather, 
> that in many ways took on the aspects of a theocracy, with a religious 
> tinge, given the fact that the political party in control until 
> Thursday was the electoral manifestation of the Muslim Brotherhood.
>  Certainly, as you are suggesting, those sectors of Egyptian society  
> that were accustomed to secular rule would certainly be upset, I am 
> certain, to see what they may have seen as the beginning of the  process
> of an increased religious restructuring in society, including, 
> possibly, laws modeled after religious requirements and such like. 
> Unquestionably that was a factor in the protest that led up to the  coup
> on Thursday.
>  However we do have to recall the original Tahrir Square activities of  
> early 2011 and recall the color revolution technique that the United 
> States and its allies, with the United States in the first place, has 
> employed over the last 13 years or so, starting in Yugoslavia in 2000 
> and later in Ukraine, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon - successfully  - and
> in Moldova, arguably, and unsuccessfully in a number of other 
> countries.
>  And what that includes, I mean we've talked about this a bit before, 
> John, is the whole political technology of generating so-called flash 
> mobs that congregate in large numbers instantaneously without 
> government detection in city squares, organized through so-called 
> social media like Facebook and Twitter with a host (really an army) of 
> US-funded so-called non-governmental organizations that seem to have 
> unlimited financial assets, largesse that they can distribute amongst 
> maybe thrill-seeking or fun-loving young people, including handing out 
> $200 and $300 smart phones and have them set up.
>  This is something that now recently retired Secretary of State,  
> Hillary Clinton, boasted about, we've talked about before on your 
> program, which is that the State Department was going to "batter down 
> firewalls and spread the voice of freedom" to Russia, China, India, 
> Iran and other countries, using the very social media we're talking 
> about, Facebook and Twitter in the first place.
>  Robles: According to the U.S. that is what happened in Egypt!
>  Rozoff: Yes. We do have to recall with the overthrow of Mubarak two  
> years ago, that for over a year there was a military junta, again, and 
> that during that period of time that something in the neighborhood of 
> 36,000 people had been arrested under security laws, that is more than 
> over the entire 30 years of the Mubarak administration, and that was 
> quite all right with the United States: the champion of human rights 
> around the world had no problem whatsoever with the military junta in 
> Cairo at that time as it evidently doesn't have now.
>  The very fact that the U.S. ambassador in Cairo has refused to  
> characterize what is clearly a military takeover as a military  
> takeover, because to do so would run afoul of American law that  
> disallows the continuation of military support to any country where 
> there has been a coup d'etat, even though the African Union has 
> suspended Egypt's membership in the African Union because of the 
> extra-constitutional nature of the events of two days ago.
>  Robles: Don't you think that stopped a massive amount of bloodshed?
>  Rozoff: There is a line by the Irish writer, poet, dramatist Oscar  
> Wilde which says because one side is wrong doesn't necessarily mean 
> the other side is right.
>  And I think frequently in a situation like this, we have to also keep  
> in mind that the government of Morsi had expelled a good number of 
> so-called NGO figures, Americans, which were instrumental in the 
> overthrow of Mubarak and then quite clearly could be - and this is 
> something we could only speculate about as we don't eavesdrop on 
> Langley, Virginia, the Central Intelligence headquarters, the way they 
> eavesdrop or the National Security Agency eavesdrops on everything  else
> and everyone else - but I think we are safe in assuming that the  US
> wants a finger in every pie and a whole lot of pokers in the fire,  and
> that they've got contacts inside government and opposition, and  the
> new generation of opposition, and they can generate, or exploit or 
> assist opposition groups at will.
>  Now another thing that one has to recall is when the so-called Arab  
> Spring began in Tunisia at the very beginning of 2011 and quickly 
> spread to Egypt, and thereafter led to NATO and US Africa CommandâEURTMs 
> assault against Libya and the overthrowing of the government after 
> almost 30,000 air flights over the nation by NATO, that one of the 
> groups involved in the opposition inside Egypt is something called the 
> April 6th Youth Movement, which quite openly - I invite your listeners 
> to go to YouTube and type it in, it has the word revolution in it - it 
> is a documentary put out by what is now know by the acronym of CANVAS 
> but what was formerly known as Otpor! in Serbia, in Belgrade. These  are
> people funded by the US State Department, unquestionably by the  CIA, by
> a number of NGOs, to overthrow the government in Yugoslavia in  the
> autumn of 2000, that is the government of President Slobodan 
> MiloÅ¡eviÄ, and it became the prototype for training the youth brigades
>  for the so-called Orange Revolution in Ukraine and earlier the Rose  
> Revolution in Georgia, and all the subsequent ones.
>  In this documentary youâEURTMll see Popovic and Marovic, the two  
> leaders of CANVAS, openly bragging and showing videos of themselves 
> instructing the Egyptian youth on how to overthrow a government, with 
> these training sessions occurring both in Belgrade and in Cairo. So we 
> know that the US has a role in most every faction or every group  active
> in Egypt.
>  You were listening to an interview in progress with Rick Rozoff the  
> owner and manager of the Stop NATO website and mailing list. You can 
> find part 2 on our website at Thanks for listening  and
> we wish you the best.

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